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What We Know About Halloween 2...So Far
Source:Ryan Rotten, Managing Editor
December 19, 2008

Michael Myers drives people crazy. Fact. And I'm not just talking about the adoring fans who keep the message boards buzzing with theories about the killer's latest movements. The press gets swept up in a rumor volleying frenzy whenever news surfaces over a new Halloween film, too. He said this, she said that. We're all guilty of it. But after two weeks since we exclusively broke the news that Rob Zombie was returning to the franchise (here's the original break) - during which time I watched everyone snicker with doubt as if I haven't been doing this for years and forgot that I got the scoop on Zombie's involvement in the remake during my tenure at Fangoria - confirmation came down when a press release was finally issued. It was met with a mixed response. But that's par for the course. I don't think there has been any other film in the last decade that elicits such a divisive response like Rob Zombie's Halloween. I'm talking full-on verbal assaults (I've never seen it come to fisticuffs in public, though). Like I said, Myers drives people crazy.

And now we have Halloween 2, or, as Zombie is calling it H2. It even says so on a piece of promo art that was likely whipped up by the man himself solely for the announcement. The title selection may simply be the director's choice, or, a possible maneuver to avoid confusion/legal entanglement with Universal who owns 1981's Halloween II. Now it's just one zero shy from looking like Dimension's former attempt to reboot the series H20. Whatever the case, let's take a look at, and address, some of the many other discussions swirling around H2.

• Shooting start and release: Production is expected to begin in March with an October release planned. Even though Dimension Films (moreover the Weinstein brothers) is notorious for doing the release date shuffle, they'll probably hold to this. And it's entirely feasible. Yes, it's a quick turnaround. Say what you will about his end product, there's no denying he's diligent and focused (check out the exhaustive 4 1/2-hour documentary on the new three-disc Halloween). Plus, he's worked under these conditions before on the remake. He was shooting in early 2007 for a late-August release. On top of that, he had extra time somewhere in between to go back for some additional shooting. So yeah, I don't think he's going to have a problem next year. Especially since they're eyeballing an October debut for the next film. We'll see if that remains solid - and I'm not saying that it's not realistic, I just wouldn't be surprised if Dimension gets antsy and pushes it up to a Labor Day weekend release to reap the same profits the remake captured (it opened to $26.3 million).

• The story: No one knows what it is. But we do know what it's not. It's not a remake of Rick Rosenthal's Halloween II and somehow that's lost in a few message board discussions I've sifted through. Whatever Zombie has up his sleeve, we suspect it's an idea he's been nurturing a little while now despite the fact that, yes, he's said he would not do a sequel. He also said he would not do a remake, yet he had a good reason for his change of mind when filming commenced on his version of the Carpenter film. Hollywood's a fickle place. It's something you have to get used to. I just find it odd that the Weinsteins tried to attach Myers to other directors first before returning to Zombie. That's like having your girlfriend experimenting with other guys before she settles on you. Myers, you dirty whore.

• Casting: To date, the only person confirmed is Tyler Mane. Although there have been rumors in the last day or so that much of the principle cast from the remake will come back in some capacity, you can never be so sure. Scout Taylor-Compton seemed pretty quick to slam us this month stating you shouldn't believe what you read on the 'net leading us to believe she didn't even know about the sequel until this week's announcement, so unless Zombie put out calls to his regulars telling them to be prepared, I'll reserve comment on who's returning and who's not until it's official. Taylor-Compton would seem to be the next obvious attachment. And we hear the powers-that-be are mulling over replacing a key player in the Myers saga. Zombie is loyal to actors he responds to (a strong sense of allegiance everyone loves to call him on), so I'm not sure what will happen at the end of the day. I won't name the actor and I won't name the character, but replacing him/her could be both a detriment and a possibly good thing.

• The mask: In-the-works. At least that's what I'm hearing through the grapevine. It's been in the works for the last few weeks. And, given the remake's conclusion, I wonder if we'll be seeing any bullet holes in this sucker.

• What's this mean for Tyrannosaurus Rex?: Other than, you won't be seeing it next year? Zombie spent a good part of the summer teasing his fans with dynamic concept art full of brawn 'n blood, so his passion for the project palpable. But were the Weinsteins, staggering headlong into 2009 with economic problems, so eager to bet on untried material? Let's just say investing in something familiar with Rob Zombie is much more attractive. I don't doubt Tyrannosaurus Rex. I really want to see it happen. It just might not happen with the Weinsteins.

The next three months are about to get very interesting as Zombie barrels towards H2. It will be followed with enthusiasm and dissent within the horror community. That's to be expected. For me, someone who remains on the fence about Halloween (acknowledging its merits and flaws), I'm curious to see what he's going to do. And I'll do my best to cover this next chapter ever step of the way with an unbiased eye.

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Posted by: Munch on December 19, 2008 at 15:48:06

PIMP! I caught H20 yesterday... what a horrid attempt. While it remains barely watchable, Myers has no presense whatsoever. By simply watching a lower-grade Halloween, I appreciated Zombie's effort that much more. Looking forward to H2 (eerily close to H20 or P2), and this was a nice read IMO.

Posted by: Jeff on December 19, 2008 at 15:54:46

Nice. I can't wait to see what the sequel's about (other than of course Michael stalking Laurie).

Posted by: Led Zeppelin on December 19, 2008 at 16:09:44

I already saw Halloween 2 and it sucked.
Maybe this time Jamie Lee Curtis could come back and try and stop Rob Zombie from making any more movies.

Posted by: Steven Millan on December 19, 2008 at 16:49:39

People actually get into public fistfights over "(Rob Zombie's)Halloween" ?! (Roll Eyes) Don't folks know that it's just a movie,for I'm sure that Rob Zombie is heavily laughing over that one.

Otherwise,I wish Rob Zombie all the best in his "H2" film and that he has a better plan for Michael Myers(in taking him to the next level)than the other sequels did(as well as gather back every actor and actress that survived in his "Halloween" outing).

Posted by: vic_segma on December 19, 2008 at 18:03:24

sucks....better be a damn fine story if they arent using the whole hospital, 2 minutes after the first film kinda thing....

Posted by: Jrock on December 19, 2008 at 18:30:48

I really hope Rob can undo some of the damage he did to the characters with a sequel. As much of a fan as I am of both Rob and Halloween, Rob let the cat out of the bag way too early by letting the audience know early on that Laurie and Michael are related, and that Laurie is completely safe with Michael. Hopefully, Michael will be pissed at Laurie for shooting him in the end of the first one, and that Rob can somehow re gain the tension that should be there between Michael and Laurie while they play out their cat-and-mouse game. The chase no longer matters if there is no threat to Laurie.
I know, this isn't the original. That said, even in Halloween 2, when we found out that Laurie and Michael were related, Michael still wanted to kill her, hence, the fear was there. He wasn't going to bend down on his knees and more or less beg for acceptance from Laurie as in the remake. That's what's missing from Zombie's efforts to re-imagine the franchise. The secret is already out, and all Michael wants is for his "boo" to love him. That makes the character of Laurie and the interaction of the two meaningless.

Posted by: GammaBob on December 19, 2008 at 18:39:13

Looking forward to this. I've heard a lot of people saying it's gonna suck because of the short time frame but I'm not worried, the Devil's Rejects (his finest work, IMO) was shot in only 30 days.

Posted by: Patrick B on December 19, 2008 at 18:41:48

The Halloween remake isn't for everyone (in fact most of Zombie's work isn't for everyone), so I'm not sure why people get so worked up. It's like I don't love all the Batman movies, just some of them, same with friday the 13th, and Nightmare on elm street. You pick and choose what you like, and you don't always have to agree with everyone.

Still not sure why people beat the hell out of each other over taste. Me personally; I loved Zombie's vision on Halloween, but that's not to say that I don't still enjoy Carpenters original film.

Posted by: Garth on December 19, 2008 at 19:29:52

The quality: Non-existent.

Posted by: Jrock on December 19, 2008 at 20:15:07

Agreed Patrick. We should all be able to disagree without being disagreeable. It's all about personal taste, which is subjective.

Posted by: danny glover on December 19, 2008 at 23:25:48

i feel that the mask is going to be blown off myers face on his left side showing bone strutcure and flesh, it as if when he grabbed Laurie's arm she fires but dosnt hit him dead on just blows off part of his face. since they are making a new mask so there hast to be some kind of damage to it and thats how they will bring myers back. i feel its univodable for zombie not to put this movies setting in a hospital, maybe not the whole movie but a part of it i feel will be in a hospital or knowing what zombie dose he mite just turn the tables on every one and have this movie be a year later i can see that happening. tell me what u think? u have to think about it a say okie how can he bring back myers. where can he take the story.

Posted by: spanish39 on December 19, 2008 at 23:39:14

Well, I liked Zombie's Halloween. I liked the new Leatherface in Texas Chainsaw. I think the new Jason is looking good. I damn sure hope Freddy comes across as a maniacal son of a ***** kid killer who makes me frightened as I was as a kid back in the early 80's! When I talked to pinhead himself I felt betrayed by Hollywood that they would not ask him back. He reassured me it would still be good though. So Hellraiser's new incarnation should be creepy as hell also. I can now see the second generation of MY generations horror icons (ala Wolfman, Dracula, Frankenstein, etc...) are looking sharper and meaner then before. I am now feeling OLD however! I can't believe it is happening so soon. Anyway, can't wait for all of these! The times, the times, they are changing.

Posted by: monsterofjonesboro on December 20, 2008 at 02:31:23

get off zombies nuts. he's a damn fine horror movie director and the future of horror, to me, is bright with him in it. he did well with the halloween remake. i bellyached about it as well but i didn't go trollin on the net and ***** about it. i kept my opinions to myself until i saw the movie and it was good. i was satisfied. so, go on zombie, make the best damn movie you can and shut these fools up who don't believe in you.

on a side note, Robert Knepper for Freddy Kruger in the Nightmare on Elm Street reboot. thank you, have a nice day.

Posted by: francesco on December 20, 2008 at 03:16:51

don't know what to think. i hated the first remake so...we'll see.

Posted by: Jack Burton on December 20, 2008 at 10:34:21

Your horror movie is brought to you today by the letter H and the number 2.

Posted by: Placebo on December 20, 2008 at 13:43:23

I love this idea. Halloween is one of the greatest horror franchises. Rob Zombie is a messed up mind kind of guy and all his movies have shown that. To do another one is a great idea. Can you guys imagine someone other than Zombie doing Michael Bay?

Posted by: Munch on December 20, 2008 at 15:33:50

@ monsterofjonesboro

I'll second the Robert Knepper for Freddy remark. Child stalker written all over that face.

Posted by: Evan on December 20, 2008 at 20:47:42

ive got a idea for H2..lets spend the first 20 min of the movie making up some bull**** storyline..then spent the last hour 20 killing teenagers over and over.. ill buy 10 copies of this dvd if one thing happens thats original and not just ripped off the others. i guess you could call the first remake original..if 3o min of his childhood being shown..then right back to the same **** is original..**** it we know were gonna see the same thing we see in every single horror movie these days so why not just skip a story and kill people for 2 least it will be original in the sense of having no story. Zombie needs to stick with his devils rejects crew..those movies were great..but doing remakes of other peoples **** isnt for him in my opinion..bring on t-rex

Posted by: sane_enough on December 21, 2008 at 02:25:57

what are you twats talking about? Halloween isn't a movie that needed a remake, but it happened. if you stopped trying so hard to pose and posture like you invented the slasher genre and claim the original as sacred you might enjoy Zombie's halloween.
There's going to be a **** load of remakes coming. Mostly because nobody has a single, original idea in their heads...but you gotta understand that these stories has become a joke after so many decades and so many sequales that some times it's better to just start over. Characters like Batman have stayed strong as modern mythology for decades because they adapt to reflect the world around them.
I'm not going to stand on a soapbox and claim to be happy for remakes. I hate the remakes of Texas Chainsaw and The Hills Have Eyes and every single Japansefilm ever put in the can, but it happens.
Dusting the Cheetos crumbs off your chest and wearing the suit of a purist does not make you a hard core gore fiend.
Artists make the culture. Not the critic.

Posted by: ZOMBIE4PETA on December 21, 2008 at 06:14:39

I thought Zombie's remake of Halloween was much more personal than the original, not to say there was anything thing wrong with the original (Scared the hell out of me as a kid).It was different if you will. He took a great story and added nice touches to it without butchering the original concept or copying it completly scene for scene. I could understand in a twisted kind of way how Micheal Myers became what he became. I found myself actually pulling for him in Zombies version which was entirely different from the way I felt about him in the original. It seemed like almost everyone who he killed had it coming to them in one way or the other. I didn't think it took away from the original at all ,if anything it just added to it. I expect Zombie to do a great job with his version of a sequel. I hope McDowell makes it back as Loomis but I don't believe he has to be in it to make it work. Karen Black was easily replaced by Leslie Eastbrook from the houses/rejects films who I thought did a terrific job stepping in as Mother Firefly.
In the world of remakes, I believe there are alot worse things being done to classic films than what Zombies doing with Halloween. Needless to say I'm looking forward to it.


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